[Allpartners.music360-beta] Visit Gema to Amsterdam

Mon Feb 19 09:03:57 CET 2024

Dear Jaap,

Ioan, Maria, and Denis are pointing out no objection from Finland either, but we would also like more info and clarification on the collaboration.

Best Regards,

Piia Moore
Project Coordinator
piia.moore at musiikkiluvat.fi<mailto:piia.moore at musiikkiluvat.fi>
+358 40 8384 550

GT Musiikkiluvat OY
Musiikin Satama
Keilasatama 2 A, 02150 Espoo

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Lähettäjä: Allpartners.music360-beta <allpartners.music360-beta-bounces at listserver.vu.nl> Puolesta Ioan Kaes
Lähetetty: perjantai 16. helmikuuta 2024 8.06
Vastaanottaja: María de Miguel Molina <mademi at omp.upv.es>
Kopio: allpartners.music360-beta at listserver.vu.nl
Aihe: Re: [Allpartners.music360-beta] Visit Gema to Amsterdam

Dear Jaap,

Thank you for this.

From our side we have no objections, but before giving a formal approval i would like to see a clear proposal on how the current research can benefit from this and how the current grant will be impacted.

Kind regards,
ioan

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On 15 Feb 2024, at 17:17, María de Miguel Molina <mademi at omp.upv.es<mailto:mademi at omp.upv.es>> wrote:
 I agree to Denis…UPV hasn’t been at the meeting (we have right now many lessons), therefore we miss some more info about they participation and how we would coordinate with a new partner at this point.

Best wishes,
______________________
María de Miguel Molina
Catedrática de Organización de Empresas (Full Professor)
Universitat Politecnica de Valencia
mademi at omp.upv.es<mailto:mademi at omp.upv.es>

El 15 feb 2024, a las 14:49, Denis Guilhot <dguilhot at bmat.com<mailto:dguilhot at bmat.com>> escribió:

Hi Jaap,

Yes, definitely. We will have to update the Consortium Agreement and submit an amendment to the PO.
But these modifications will have to be specific to what task is agreed upon from both sides, what access rights are granted... Also, I think the PO will ask the reasons, objectives, and details of the collaboration before accepting their inclusion in the project. So we would need a precise plan before making the collaboration formal.
This does not stop us from collaborating on the literature review, methodologies, and least problematic points in the meanwhile.

Best regards,
Denis

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 at 14:40, Gordijn, J. (J) <j.gordijn at vu.nl<mailto:j.gordijn at vu.nl>> wrote:
Denis,

I think this requires an update in the consortium agreement.
In the current agreement, we have ruled out everything that had to with associate partners because there were not their.
We have to think ourselves what we want to add to the agreement, regarding the point, and likely other issues that you mention.

Best,

-- Jaap Gordijn

From: Denis Guilhot <dguilhot at bmat.com<mailto:dguilhot at bmat.com>>
Sent: donderdag 15 februari 2024 14:37
To: Gordijn, J. (J) <j.gordijn at vu.nl<mailto:j.gordijn at vu.nl>>
Cc: allpartners.music360-beta at listserver.vu.nl<mailto:allpartners.music360-beta at listserver.vu.nl>
Subject: Re: [Allpartners.music360-beta] Visit Gema to Amsterdam

Dear Jaap,

Thanks for the meeting, it was very interesting.
As we mentioned, we have no issues about GEMA joining as associated partner, all the opposite, I think it can strengthen the work and will definitely look good that such a company wants to join with 0 funding. Nevertheless, we would recommend discussing further with them the objectives and benefits for each party so we can define what the associated partnership would look like. Because for instance the data they have collected could not be disclosed within the Music360 project, since they only have access to part of the data, and under NDA. So what do you think about defining their role and part in the project before formalizing the collaboration? Obviously we can consult the project officer in parallel.

Best regards,
Denis

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 at 13:53, Gordijn, J. (J) <j.gordijn at vu.nl<mailto:j.gordijn at vu.nl>> wrote:
Dear all,

Today, the German CMO on author rights, GEMA, visited us, the VU team, plus a representation of BMAT.
As I explained already earlier, there is significant overlap between the study that GEMA undertakes and what we do, specifically on the research of the value of music in retail and gastronomy.
We both think it is a good idea to explore if we can formalize the relationship, for example by means of an associate partnership.

The process for that is the following:
1. please let me know before feb 23rd, if you have any objection
2. if everyone agrees, I will consult the project officer about this.
3. If the project officer is positive, we will start the process of entering the associate partnership, which require a change in both the grant and consortium agreement. We all should agree, and the same holds for GEMA.

Best,

-- Jaap Gordijn
UNESCO chair Decentralized Information Society Engineering
Associate Professor VU Amsterdam, The Netherlands
CEO The Value Engineers, The Netherlands

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